Have you heard? About the other guys? MS W7

[TexWebslinger]

I know this is the FWLUG but we often have to deal in the real world and must connect to other OS's. This is an article from CNN Money...I had emailed it to myself from the cell. Good thing cause I can't find it doing a search? It was in their Money section...

From CNN...
Windows 7 complaints begin


Microsoft launched Windows 7 in late October to much fanfare. But, just like with previous Windows upgrades, complaints about bugs have already started rolling in.

A whopping 31% of clients have reported problems with upgrading to Windows 7, according to a recent survey of more than 100,000 customers conducted by consumer helpdesk firm iYogi.

"Most of the problems that customers have with Windows 7 have to do with installation, or application and data migration," said Vishal Dhar, co-founder of iYogi. "These are all fixable problems, but they're annoyances and they're time consuming."

One common gripe, experienced by 9% of installers, is that the half-hour to an hour-long upgrade process gets to the "62% completed" point and then freezes. It's a problem that Microsoft is aware of, and can be fixed by rebooting the computer, going into advanced settings, and typing in a code that instructs the computer to ignore plug-ins.

However, issues didn't stop with the upgrade process. Many users still experienced glitches even after successfully installing Windows 7 on their machines.

Most common among those complaints was that basic "applet" programs, like Mail, Movie Maker and Photo Gallery, were missing. That's because Windows 7 deletes those programs and makes users download them from the Windows Live Essential Web site. IYogi said 26% of their customers were confused about that extra step.

Others had problems getting their computers to work properly: Eight percent said their DVD drives couldn't be found and 2% couldn't sync their iPhones with Windows 7.

One in seven users also complained that the sleek new "Aero" theme doesn't work. The Aero theme enables users to see through a window to view the desktop or other programs that are open behind it. According to iYogi, most of the 14% of users that have problems with Aero don't have the graphics capabilities on their PCs to handle the program.

Other common complaints included an inability to view file extensions, too many "mini-dumps" (memory images saved on the computer when it crashes), problems with the "Aero snap" feature, changes to custom icons and problems with the new taskbar.

Microsoft, which debuted Windows 7 on Oct. 22, did not return requests for comment.

Smoother sailing once it's debugged. Once the bugs from upgrading have been worked out, users have had a relatively hassle-free experience. And those who bought a new computer with Windows 7 preloaded have seen the fewest issues.

"Customers who finally get it up and running love Windows 7," said Dhar. "We haven't had a lot of people calling for usability issues, because it's a much more intuitive interface than Windows XP."

That's not to say that Windows 7 is perfect.

According to Zeus Kerravala, an analyst at Yankee Group, one of the biggest annoyances with the new operating system is that the "ribbon menus" at the top of programs have been redesigned and must be relearned. In previous Windows versions, the menus remained very consistent (File, Edit, View, Insert, etc.), but in Windows 7, they can be wildly different from application to application.

"It took me a long while to figure out how to print," said Kerravala. "Microsoft tried to improve the user interface, but there's a learning curve because it's inconsistent."

Microsoft also did away with many favorite applications like Windows Movie Maker, which is particularly surprising given the propensity of cell phone videos and Flip video camera movies.

But all of the gripes about Windows 7 pale in comparison to the angry complaints about Microsoft's previous Windows iteration, Windows Vista. That version was an outright disaster after it was released in 2007. Vista was plagued by bugs, software incompatibilities, sluggishness and annoying security alerts. The episode nearly destroyed the tech giant's reputation with consumers.

"While there are a few bugs, I haven't seen or heard of any show-stoppers," said Laura DiDio, principal analyst at ITIC. "In fact, just the opposite. Some Vista users can't wait to upgrade. So far, this has been a home run for Microsoft."

[maczimus]

Although we all like to bash Windows. it is still number one and i seem to remember some article saying Karmic Koala was Canonical's Vista...ouch...the good thing though is that everyone can make Linux better rather than a few programmers in Redmond...man I wonder how stable Windows would get if they open sourced the code...how much slimmer it would get! Dreams.....

[TexWebslinger]

Bashing anything is for kids, to make others wrong and self look right. I posted this rather as an indication of what the general public reports as issues. After all it is new and some of us have yet to play with it much less deal with a serious application right off the bat. At least this will give us some idea of what to be on the look out for with our first dealings with the product.

My personal view, is that there are more than 1 ways to get a job done. Both Ford and Chevy have very different styles, just as M$ and Linux. Both will survive for most of our lives There is pro's and con's to each. Variation makes the world go round

Yet, when a new version of Linux comes out, do you hear complaints? Oh, sure within our group we may say something, but you don't really hear about it on CNN!
Does anyone seem to find humor in that?

[maczimus]

Not pointing fingers though....the truth is the truth....if Windows sucks then it sucks...it's amazing though how many skipped Vista but yet want 7? it's like every time they say this version is faster and more reliable....but it ends up being more bloated...XP was the best they had...http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/ look at the one called "broken Promises"

that is all

[glavanway]

"i seem to remember some article saying Karmic Koala was Canonical's Vista...ouch" -maczimus Just remember they may call Koala Canonical's Vista, but they will never call anything Microsoft's Ubnutu. Linux will always have that.

[maczimus]

"i seem to remember some article saying Karmic Koala was Canonical's Vista...ouch" -maczimus Just remember they may call Koala Canonical's Vista, but they will never call anything Microsoft's Ubnutu. Linux will always have that.

Wow...good point and i will never leave Linux. I have learned too much and i do not miss the BSOD and viruses and i enjoy all the freedoms...

My gripe is that there has to be a way to spread the word effectively that there is a choice and that you don't need Windows on a PC...